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Dátum: 2013-04-15 10:11:14
Feladó: Baranyi Zoltán
Tárgy: Re: C2011 L4
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Ezen hogy t=FBnteted el?
De,hogy ne is t=F5rd a fejed az optikai csal=F3d=E1son: az IRIS hisztogramm=
ot nem tudod =E1tv=E1gni ilyen m=F3don....
=C9s m=E9g valami:nem csak DSLR g=E9pekn=E9l van jelen!
K=E9r=E9sre erre is k=FCld=F6k p=E9ld=E1t. :)



From: leonidak-bounces@mcse.hu [mailto:leonidak-bounces@mcse.hu] On Behalf =
Of Guly=E1s Kriszti=E1n
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 12:09 PM
To: =C9szlel=F5 amat=F5rcsillag=E1szok f=F3ruma
Subject: Re: [Leonidak] C2011 L4

=C9n is arra gondolok, amire G=E1bor. Napfolteffektus. Feket=E9nek l=E1tjuk=
a napfoltot, pedig vil=E1g=EDt az, nem is kicsit.
Photoshop h=EDj=E1n az im=E9nt egy darab cetlit megv=E1gtam =FAgy, hogy kb.=
120 fokos sz=F6get z=E1rjon be k=E9t oldala, besat=EDroztam feket=E9re =E9=
s eltakartam vele az =FCst=F6k=F6st. Az "=E1rny=E9k" elt=FBnt.

2013.04.15. 11:58 keltez=E9ssel, Baranyi Zolt=E1n =EDrta:

Akkor mutatok m=E9g valamit! :-)



Ez a k=E9p itt van a NET-en: http://britastro.org/baa/index.php?view=3Ddeta=
il&id=3D1034&option=3Dcom_joomgallery&Itemid=3D200



Let=F6lt=F6ttem (b=E1r =EDgy is l=E1tszik!) =E9s iris binning ut=E1n a mell=
=E9kelt k=E9p lett bel=F5le!

Az kiz=E1rt,hogy a vil=E1g k=E9t t=E1voli pontj=E1n,k=E9t cucc,azonos m=F3d=
on csesszen el k=E9t k=E9pet!









-----Original Message-----

From: leonidak-bounces@mcse.hu [mailto:leo=
nidak-bounces@mcse.hu] On Behalf Of G=E1bor S=E1nta

Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 11:52 AM

To: =C9szlel=F5 amat=F5rcsillag=E1szok f=F3ruma

Subject: Re: [Leonidak] C2011 L4



Valami kiolvas=E1si, elektronikai jelens=E9gre tippeln=E9k akkor, enn=E9l t=
=F6bbet nem tudok mondani.



G=E1bor



Baranyi Zolt=E1n =EDrta, 2013.04.=
15.:

Szia G=E1bor!



Lehet,hogy igazad van,b=E1r nem eg=E9szen =E9rtem a le=EDrtakat:mit =E9rtes=
z a "fura"

gradiensen?

Itt van 1db exp=F3. Csak binnigelve van! Itt t=F6k j=F3l l=E1tszik,hogy a

v=E1rosi f=E9nyszenny hat=E1ra j=F3val t=FAl mutat az =FCstin. Az =FCsti al=
att pedig

ott a s=F6t=E9t =E1rny=E9k! Ha k=E9red =E1tk=FCld=F6m a 6,4Mb-s CRW.file-t =
is. :-)











-----Original Message-----

From: leonidak-bounces@mcse.hu [mailto:leo=
nidak-bounces@mcse.hu] On

Behalf Of G=E1bor S=E1nta

Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 10:54 AM

To: =C9szlel=F5 amat=F5rcsillag=E1szok f=F3ruma

Subject: Re: [Leonidak] C2011 L4



Kontraszthat=E1sra tippelek. A k=E9p gradiense el=E9g fura, nagyon =E9rdeke=
s

flat-strukt=FAr=E1k vannak a k=E9pen. Ha az =FCst=F6k=F6st kitakarom, akkor=
szinte

elt=FBnik az "=E1rny=E9k" - vagyis a f=E9nyes =E9gitest =E9s a h=E1tt=E9r k=
ontrasztja

okozza. Ugyanis jobbra lefel=E9 n=F6vekszik a h=E1tt=E9r intenzit=E1sa, vag=
yis

az =FCst=F6k=F6st=F5l jobbra lefel=E9 t=E1volodva emelkedik a h=E1tt=E9rf=
=E9ny, =EDgy az

=FCst=F6k=F6s =E9s a k=E9p sz=E9le k=F6zt egy relat=EDve alacsonyabb intenz=
it=E1s=FA ter=FClet tal=E1lhat=F3.



Snt



Baranyi Zolt=E1n =EDrta, 2013.04.=
15.:

Sziasztok!



Szombat esti k=E9p(ek) az =FCst=F6k=F6sr=F5l:



http://kiskun.mcse.hu/galeria/main.php/csillagaszati_felveteleink/bar

a

nyiz/C2011+L4/



K=E9pekkel kapcsolatban k=E9rd=E9sem lenne az =FCst=F6k=F6s szak=E9rt=F5kh=
=F6z:



mi okozza az =FCsti alatt l=E1that=F3(?) s=F6t=E9t "=E1rny=E9k"-ot?

A k=E9pek 300D-vel,200mm-es tel=E9vel,30x25sec.-es exp=F3kb=F3l k=E9sz=FClt=
ek.A

sz=EDnes k=E9pen jobban l=E1tszik -tal=E1n!- az =FCsti z=F6ldes f=E9nye =E9=
s a k=F6zeli

v=E1ros dereng=F5 f=E9nyszennye okozta kontraszt miatt. (ha cs=F6kkentem a

z=F6ld csatorn=E1t akkor jobban l=E1tszana a v=E1ros f=E9nye,de az =FCsti i=
s

halv=E1nyodna). A fekete-feh=E9r k=E9p, a sz=EDnes k=E9p z=F6ld csatorn=E1j=
=E1b=F3l

lett kiv=E1gva,de itt is l=E1tszik az =E1rny=E9k.

A feldolgoz=E1s k=F6zbeni "m=FBterm=E9k" nehezen elk=E9pzelhet=F5 (mondhatn=
i

kiz=E1rt!),ugyanis az egyes exp=F3kon is felismerhet=F5 a dolog.

A k=E9peken csak "dark" levon=E1s t=F6rt=E9nt az illeszt=E9s =E9s =F6sszegz=
=E9s el=F5tt

(se flat,se szintetiz=E1lt flat levon=E1s...)



Teh=E1t:mit=F5l lehet ott az az =E1rny=E9k?



=DCdv: Zoli







______________________________________________________________________

__



A csatolm=E1nyk=E9nt k=FCld=F6tt k=E9peket k=E9rj=FCk, m=E9retezd =E1t =FAg=
y, hogy a

hosszabbik oldaluk legfeljebb 800 pixeles legyen! K=F6sz=F6nj=FCk!



=C1ltal=E1nos inform=E1ci=F3k =E9s tan=E1csok a k=E9pbek=FCld=E9ssel kapcso=
latban:



http://meteor.mcse.hu/digitalis_kepek.html

______________________________________________________________________

__



Leonidak levelez=F5lista - =C9szlel=F5 amat=F5rcsillag=E1szok f=F3ruma

Hozz=E1sz=F3l=E1sok: Leonidak@mcse.hu

Listakezel=F5 utas=EDt=E1sok: Leonidak-request@mcse.hu est@mcse.hu> Arch=EDvum, be=E1ll=EDt=E1sok:

http://mailman.mcse.hu/mailman/listinfo/leonidak



________________________________________________________________________



A csatolm=E1nyk=E9nt k=FCld=F6tt k=E9peket k=E9rj=FCk, m=E9retezd =E1t =FAg=
y, hogy a hosszabbik oldaluk legfeljebb 800 pixeles legyen! K=F6sz=F6nj=FCk=
!



=C1ltal=E1nos inform=E1ci=F3k =E9s tan=E1csok a k=E9pbek=FCld=E9ssel kapcso=
latban:



http://meteor.mcse.hu/digitalis_kepek.html

________________________________________________________________________



Leonidak levelez=F5lista - =C9szlel=F5 amat=F5rcsillag=E1szok f=F3ruma

Hozz=E1sz=F3l=E1sok: Leonidak@mcse.hu

Listakezel=F5 utas=EDt=E1sok: Leonidak-request@mcse.hu est@mcse.hu> Arch=EDvum, be=E1ll=EDt=E1sok: http://mailman.mcse.hu/mailman/=
listinfo/leonidak




________________________________________________________________________



A csatolm=E1nyk=E9nt k=FCld=F6tt k=E9peket k=E9rj=FCk, m=E9retezd =E1t =FAg=
y, hogy a

hosszabbik oldaluk legfeljebb 800 pixeles legyen! K=F6sz=F6nj=FCk!



=C1ltal=E1nos inform=E1ci=F3k =E9s tan=E1csok a k=E9pbek=FCld=E9ssel kapcso=
latban:



http://meteor.mcse.hu/digitalis_kepek.html

________________________________________________________________________



Leonidak levelez=F5lista - =C9szlel=F5 amat=F5rcsillag=E1szok f=F3ruma

Hozz=E1sz=F3l=E1sok: Leonidak@mcse.hu

Listakezel=F5 utas=EDt=E1sok: Leonidak-request@mcse.hu est@mcse.hu>

Arch=EDvum, be=E1ll=EDt=E1sok: http://mailman.mcse.hu/mailman/listinfo/leon=
idak


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";color:windowtext"> leonidak-bounces@mcse.hu [mailto:leonidak-bounces=
@mcse.hu]
On Behalf Of Guly=E1s Kriszti=E1n

Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 12:09 PM

To: =C9szlel=F5 amat=F5rcsillag=E1szok f=F3ruma

Subject: Re: [Leonidak] C2011 L4




 


=C9n is arra gondolok=
, amire G=E1bor. Napfolteffektus. Feket=E9nek l=E1tjuk a napfoltot, pedig v=
il=E1g=EDt az, nem is kicsit.

Photoshop h=EDj=E1n az im=E9nt egy darab cetlit megv=E1gtam =FAgy, hogy kb.=
120 fokos sz=F6get z=E1rjon be k=E9t oldala, besat=EDroztam feket=E9re =E9=
s eltakartam vele az =FCst=F6k=F6st. Az "=E1rny=E9k" elt=FBnt. >




2013.04.15. 11:58 keltez=E9ssel, Baranyi Zolt=E1n =
=EDrta:




Akkor mutatok m=E9g valamit! :-)

 

Ez a k=E9p itt van a NET-en: 
.php?view=3Ddetail&id=3D1034&option=3Dcom_joomgallery&Itemid=3D=
200">http://britastro.org/baa/index.php?view=3Ddetail&id=3D1034&opt=
ion=3Dcom_joomgallery&Itemid=3D200

 

Let=F6lt=F6ttem (b=E1r =EDgy is l=E1tszik!) =E9s iris binning ut=E1n a=
mell=E9kelt k=E9p lett bel=F5le!

Az kiz=E1rt,hogy a vil=E1g k=E9t t=E1voli pontj=E1n,k=E9t cucc,azonos =
m=F3don csesszen el k=E9t k=E9pet!

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: leonidak-bounces@mcs=
e.hu
[mailto:leonidak-bounc=
es@mcse.hu
] On Behalf Of G=E1bor S=E1nta

Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 11:52 AM

To: =C9szlel=F5 amat=F5rcsillag=E1szok f=F3ruma

Subject: Re: [Leonidak] C2011 L4

 

Valami kiolvas=E1si, elektronikai jelens=E9gre tippeln=E9k akkor, enn=
=E9l t=F6bbet nem tudok mondani.

 

G=E1bor

 

Baranyi Zolt=E1n <baranyiz@kmk.h=
u>
=EDrta, 2013.04.15.:


Szia G=E1bor!

 

Lehet,hogy igazad van,b=E1r nem eg=E9szen =E9rtem a le=EDrtakat:mit =
=E9rtesz a "fura"

gradiensen?

Itt van 1db exp=F3. Csak binnigelve van! Itt t=F6k j=F3l l=E1tszik,hog=
y a

v=E1rosi f=E9nyszenny hat=E1ra j=F3val t=FAl mutat az =FCstin. Az =FCs=
ti alatt pedig

ott a s=F6t=E9t =E1rny=E9k! Ha k=E9red =E1tk=FCld=F6m a 6,4Mb-s CRW.fi=
le-t is. :-)

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: leonidak-bounces@mcs=
e.hu
[mailto:leonidak-bounc=
es@mcse.hu
] On

Behalf Of G=E1bor S=E1nta

Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 10:54 AM

To: =C9szlel=F5 amat=F5rcsillag=E1szok f=F3ruma

Subject: Re: [Leonidak] C2011 L4

 

Kontraszthat=E1sra tippelek. A k=E9p gradiense el=E9g fura, nagyon =E9=
rdekes

flat-strukt=FAr=E1k vannak a k=E9pen. Ha az =FCst=F6k=F6st kitakarom, =
akkor szinte

elt=FBnik az "=E1rny=E9k" - vagyis a f=E9nyes =E9gitest =E9s=
a h=E1tt=E9r kontrasztja

okozza. Ugyanis jobbra lefel=E9 n=F6vekszik a h=E1tt=E9r intenzit=E1sa=
, vagyis

az =FCst=F6k=F6st=F5l jobbra lefel=E9 t=E1volodva emelkedik a h=E1tt=
=E9rf=E9ny, =EDgy az

=FCst=F6k=F6s =E9s a k=E9p sz=E9le k=F6zt egy relat=EDve alacsonyabb i=
ntenzit=E1s=FA ter=FClet tal=E1lhat=F3.

 

Snt

 

Baranyi Zolt=E1n <baranyiz@kmk.h=
u>
=EDrta, 2013.04.15.:


Sziasztok!

 

Szombat esti k=E9p(ek) az =FCst=F6k=F6sr=F5l:

 


eleink/bar">http://kiskun.mcse.hu/galeria/main.php/csillagaszati_felvetelei=
nk/bar

a

nyiz/C2011+L4/

 

K=E9pekkel kapcsolatban k=E9rd=E9sem lenne az =FCst=F6k=F6s szak=E9rt=
=F5kh=F6z:

 

mi okozza az =FCsti alatt l=E1that=F3(?) s=F6t=E9t "=E1rny=E9k&qu=
ot;-ot?

A k=E9pek 300D-vel,200mm-es tel=E9vel,30x25sec.-es exp=F3kb=F3l k=E9sz=
=FCltek.A

sz=EDnes k=E9pen jobban l=E1tszik -tal=E1n!- az =FCsti z=F6ldes f=E9ny=
e =E9s a k=F6zeli

v=E1ros dereng=F5 f=E9nyszennye okozta kontraszt miatt. (ha cs=F6kkent=
em a

z=F6ld csatorn=E1t akkor jobban l=E1tszana a v=E1ros f=E9nye,de az =FC=
sti is

halv=E1nyodna). A fekete-feh=E9r k=E9p, a sz=EDnes k=E9p z=F6ld csator=
n=E1j=E1b=F3l

lett kiv=E1gva,de itt is l=E1tszik az =E1rny=E9k.

A feldolgoz=E1s k=F6zbeni "m=FBterm=E9k" nehezen elk=E9pzelh=
et=F5 (mondhatni

kiz=E1rt!),ugyanis az egyes exp=F3kon is felismerhet=F5 a dolog.<=
/o:p>

A k=E9peken csak "dark" levon=E1s t=F6rt=E9nt az illeszt=E9s=
=E9s =F6sszegz=E9s el=F5tt

(se flat,se szintetiz=E1lt flat levon=E1s...)

 

Teh=E1t:mit=F5l lehet ott az az =E1rny=E9k?

 

=DCdv: Zoli

 

 

 


______________________________________________________________________=

__

 

A csatolm=E1nyk=E9nt k=FCld=F6tt k=E9peket k=E9rj=FCk, m=E9retezd =E1t=
=FAgy, hogy a

hosszabbik oldaluk legfeljebb 800 pixeles legyen! K=F6sz=F6nj=FCk!
>

 

=C1ltal=E1nos inform=E1ci=F3k =E9s tan=E1csok a k=E9pbek=FCld=E9ssel k=
apcsolatban:

 

http://meteor.m=
cse.hu/digitalis_kepek.html

______________________________________________________________________=

__

 

Leonidak levelez=F5lista - =C9szlel=F5 amat=F5rcsillag=E1szok f=F3ruma=

Hozz=E1sz=F3l=E1sok: Leonidak@mcse=
.hu

Listakezel=F5 utas=EDt=E1sok: 
hu">Leonidak-request@mcse.hu Arch=EDvum, be=E1ll=EDt=E1sok:<=
/pre>
http://ma=
ilman.mcse.hu/mailman/listinfo/leonidak

 


______________________________________________________________________=
__

 

A csatolm=E1nyk=E9nt k=FCld=F6tt k=E9peket k=E9rj=FCk, m=E9retezd =E1t=
=FAgy, hogy a hosszabbik oldaluk legfeljebb 800 pixeles legyen! K=F6sz=F6n=
j=FCk!

 

=C1ltal=E1nos inform=E1ci=F3k =E9s tan=E1csok a k=E9pbek=FCld=E9ssel k=
apcsolatban:

 

http://meteor.m=
cse.hu/digitalis_kepek.html

______________________________________________________________________=
__

 

Leonidak levelez=F5lista - =C9szlel=F5 amat=F5rcsillag=E1szok f=F3ruma=

Hozz=E1sz=F3l=E1sok: Leonidak@mcse=
.hu

Listakezel=F5 utas=EDt=E1sok: 
hu">Leonidak-request@mcse.hu Arch=EDvum, be=E1ll=EDt=E1sok: 
http://mailman.mcse.hu/mailman/listinfo/leonidak">http://mailman.mcse.hu/ma=
ilman/listinfo/leonidak








______________________________________________________________________=
__

 

A csatolm=E1nyk=E9nt k=FCld=F6tt k=E9peket k=E9rj=FCk, m=E9retezd =E1t=
=FAgy, hogy a

hosszabbik oldaluk legfeljebb 800 pixeles legyen! K=F6sz=F6nj=FCk!
>

 

=C1ltal=E1nos inform=E1ci=F3k =E9s tan=E1csok a k=E9pbek=FCld=E9ssel k=
apcsolatban:

 

http://meteor.m=
cse.hu/digitalis_kepek.html

______________________________________________________________________=
__

 

Leonidak levelez=F5lista - =C9szlel=F5 amat=F5rcsillag=E1szok f=F3ruma=

Hozz=E1sz=F3l=E1sok: Leonidak@mcse=
.hu

Listakezel=F5 utas=EDt=E1sok: 
hu">Leonidak-request@mcse.hu

Arch=EDvum, be=E1ll=EDt=E1sok: 
an/listinfo/leonidak">http://mailman.mcse.hu/mailman/listinfo/leonidak<=
o:p>


 






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